Discuss the following statements. Tell me if they are true or false and why. You will have until Thrusday, at 10pm, to make comments on two other entries.
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
66 comentarios:
1. False:Cleopatra was not a nessecarily attractive woman, in fact, some evidence suggests she was quite plain. But she had a cunning personallity that did help charm her suitors.
2. True
3. False: After her husband died, she formed an alliance with Ceasear.
4. True
5. False: "Cleopatra was left to the mercy of Octavian, the man who would soon be know as Augustus, the firt of a long line of Roman emperors...In any event, Octavian did not succumb to her charms. Rather than be carted back to Rome as a prisoner of war, she commited suicide."
6. False. They fled from him and both commuted suicide.
7. She killed herself. Some say she could have poisened herself, or died of a self-induced snake bite.
~Savannah Smith
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
False. Her potrait shows her as a rather plain woman with a sensitive mouth, large eyes, and a big hooked nose. So it was her charm/wits that charmed her many suitors. Her personality was the real looker.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
True. It was traditional in Egypt for the King and Queen to be brother and sister.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
False. The second husband's cause of death is not mentioned.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
True. After Cleopatra met Anthony at Tarsus and returned to Alexandria as lovers.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
False. Whether she was tired or miserable because of Anthony's death, Cleopatra committed suicide.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
False. There was no mention of the senate stripping Anthony of power. But Anthony did go to Alexandria for security reasons to form a power base there.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
She committed. It was dramatic because it shouted romance! She followed Mark Anthony to death, rather than stay behind and be humiliated. Most importantly it is said to have been from a serpent's bite. Probably a cobra, seeing as it was a deity and a fast killer.
Maria Gonzalez
We weren't suppose to post them yet...FOLLOW DIRECTIONS!
oh ya??? where does it say that?
@ Maria:
I thought your answers were very insightful and I could tell that you read.
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
False, they say she was rather plain , with sensitive mouth large eyes, and a big hooked nose. But she did have irresistible charm.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
True, custom in egypt.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
false, he was killed in battle.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony
true.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
false, he left her to go back to rome.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
false, they both went to egypt and committed suicide to escape octavian.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
she killed herself, or downed herself with poison.
-rachel miller.
1. False, She was said to be a plain women. Don't trust movies.
2. True, It was the tradition.
3. False, He was dead before Caesar married Cleopatra.
4. True, she went on a trip, and came back with a husband.
5. False, she was tired and miserable, and she was aged.
6. False, Antony fled to Alexandria for safety.
7. She killed herself with a snake, people are debating weather it was a viper or a cobra.
--Hanna Shih, 3rd hr
Brittany Buurstra
1st hr
1. False, she was more charming than beautiful.
2. True, Ptolemy XIII was her brother.
3. False.
4. True.
5. False.
6. True.
7. Cleopatra committed suicide, rather than be taken back as a prisoner of war.
1)False; It has been stated by Historians that her personality and charm seem to have been more powerful than her looks.
2)True; Ptolemy XIII was her brother & husband. It was the custom in ancient Egypt.
3) False; Ptolemy was killed in battle
4)True; after Caesar's assassination she sailed to Mark Antony and they became lovers
5)False; She tried to make "peace" with him but he didn't fall to her charm (she was aged and tired)
6)True; the combined fleets of Antony & Cleopatra went against Octavian in the battle Actium
7)She committed suicide; she killed herself instead of being carted back to Rome as a prisoner of war.
Eskira Kahsay
History-1st hour
1. False, she was not of great beauty; her portrait on Egyptian coins shows a woman with large eyes and a big hooked nose.
2. True, it was custom in ancient Egypt that the king and queen were brother and sister as well as husband and wife.
3. False, the article says that Ptolemy was killed in battle; it didn’t say that he was executed by Caesar.
4. True, Anthony asked her to come to tarsus, so she came with gifts. She succeeded in seducing Anthony and they both came back to Alexandria as lovers.
5. False, Cleopatra was left to the mercy of Octavian and she could no longer get by with seducing him because she was then too old.
6. False, the combined fleets of Anthony and Cleopatra were in retreat by Octavian’s ships at the battle of Actium. (They both ran away from Octavian’s force).
7. Cleopatra committed suicide. What made her death so dramatic is that there are multiple stories of how she died (either from a cobra or a vipers bite). Also it’s sort of dramatic how her lover died first then she died (both of them committing suicide).
- Alison Robinson
1.It wasn't her beauty. It was more her charm/personality.
2. true
3.False after he died, she formed an alliance with cesear
4.true
5.False, they committed suicide,
6.False, He left to Alexandria
7.Suicide. They both committed suicide.
Savannah, I think it was a good idea to quote something directly from the article. It is a good way to get your point across accurately.
Maria Gonzales, you put tons of detail into your answers and it shows you know exactly what you are talking about.
-Jack
1. false, personality/ beliefs
2.True
3. False, Ptolemy was killed in battle
4.True
5.False,he fled to rome for his safety
6. False, they fled
7. Suicide from a poison.(snake venom)
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
False. The article describes Cleopatra as being someone that “was not of the incomparable kind that constantly captivates the eyes of the beholder” type of person, but it says that it was her personality that was more powerful than her looks, and she had irresistible charm.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
True, back in ancient Egypt, it was acceptable to have your brother be the King and the sister be the Queen. In fact, it was tradition to do so. They soon became rivals rather than loyal helpmates.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
False, Ptolemy died in battle .
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
True, When Cleopatra and Antony met in Tarsus, she presented him with gifts, and seduced him and returned to Egypt as lovers.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
False, the article never says that they really negotiated or made treaties with one another.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
False, they fled to Egypt and committed suicide.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
There are a few theories about her death, but one is that she committed suicide by making a snake bite her breast.
-Alejandro Potter
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
False. She was plain looking, and had an irresistable charm but her personality was far more powerful then her looks. She has also been reporeted to be very intelligent.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
True. In Ancient Egypt the king and queen also had to be brother and sister.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
False. She was deprived of power which is why she set out to seduce Caesar, and they began a joint rule. The Ptolemy was killed in battle.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
True. He asked her to go to nowadays 'Turkey' and she did not hesitate for her plan was to seduce a conqueror. She impressed and seduced Antony with herbounteous gifts of Egyptian wealth.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
False. She tried to seduce him but the charms she had and used on Caesar and Antony did not work on Octavian.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
False. They escaped to Alexandria, where Antony fell on a sword killing himself and leavin Cleopatra on her own at the mercy of Octavian.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
It is said that she could have been bitten by a snake, but she was too clever to let a snake do it. I believe she poisoned herself, whether it was with snake venom or not, she was an independent woman and had her own reasons.
Kylie Rose
Maria, it sounds like you knew your stuff! It sounds detailed and looks amazing!
-Eric Newton
- Duncan White
1. False, they think that she wasn't actually that beautiful but she was very smart and could trick people
2. True, In Egypt it was very common
3. False, He was killed in battle before Caesar married her
4. True
5. False, she was starting to get old and he left her
6. False, they committed suicide so he would not capture them
7. She committed suicide in some form, people believe it was a venomous snake
-Duncan White
Savannah, you could've gone into detail on numbers 2 and 4. Other than that, good job.
Kylie: All your answers were very well thought out, great job.
Savannah: For number one you really went into detail and described the whole thing, great job.
- Duncan White
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
False,they said that she was not as pretty as she had been portrayed to be.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
True, It was cutom in Egpyt that you would marry your brother or sister.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
False, he wasn't executed by caesar
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
True
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
False, she didn't make any treaty with Octavian.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
False,they fled from Octavian.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
Cleopatra committed suicide by letting a snake bite her,the snakes bite poisoned her an left her to have a slow painful death.
-Niara Riley
1. Cleopatra was said to be a plain kind of ordinary woman, but it was her personality that the suitors liked.
2. True
3. False, he died in a fight/ battle.
4. True
5. False, she tried to make peace but she was too tired/ aged.
6. False, he went to Alexandria
7. She killed herself because she didnt want to be a prisoner of war.
Jeffery Oard
1st hour
Ale-
Your answers are in depth and too the point. I like the way you answered the questions.
-Jeffery Oard
~De'Andreah Hollowell, 3rd Hr.
1.False! Cleopatra is commonly portrayed as not only a plain jane, but as one with a big nose. Cleopatra's personality is really what charmed her suitors.
2.True. It was a custom in Egypt for king and queen to be husband and wife, and also siblings to each other. D:
3.False. Ptolemy died in battle shortly after Caesar had restored Cleopatra and his power in Egypt. I don't think they had a chance to get married.
4.True. Mark Antony had invited her to come to see him in Tarsus in Asia Minor...after mulling around the city, Antony came to her, and fell for her shortly after. They went back to Alexandria as lovers.
5.False. Cleopatra stayed in Egypt while Antony married Octavian's sister in an attempt to keep the peace(Octavian's had begun to gather more power) and she made Egypt's economy stronger and upped its defenses.
6.True. Antony and Cleopatra combined their fleets together, but were overpowered by Octavian's ships.
7. Cleopatra committed suicide, it was dramatic because she may have let the venomous bite of an asp kill her, or die via poison she kept constantly near by in times of desperation.
1. False- It was said that she was only an ordinary looking woman. She normally attracted men thru her personality and beliefs
2. True
3. False- He was killed in battle
4. True
5. False- It is said that she was miserable (possibly from Antony's death. She was aged and she committed suicide.
6. False- They both committed suicide to escape being prisoners of war.
7. There are many myths that suggest different events that led to her suicide. The most popular one is the fact that she died due to a self-induced snake bite from an asp on the breast.
Whitney Burney
Eskira: I really like how your answers are short, but they contain key details. I also like your answer to #7, saying how it was the actual situation that led to/surrounded her death, instead of how she did it. :]
Alison R: I like how your answer to #4 not only included that Antony and Cleo came back as lovers, but that she succeeded in doing so. It shows she really wasn't in it 100% for the romance.
Nice job.
~De'Andreah Hollowell, 3rd Hr.
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors. This is false because she was plain looking. What attracted her suitors was her charm and her character that "put all those who associated with her under her spell".
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother. This is true because it was Egyptian custom that king and queen were brother and sister.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra. False; he was killed in battle and I don't think Caesar and Cleapatra married.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers. True; she believed that Rome's/Egypt's future was in Antony's hands so she went to Tarsus and impressed/seduced him.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt. False; she was left to his mercy and he did not succumb to her charms.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian. False; there was nothing about fighting him but they did flee to Alexandria where they killed themselves.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death? She killed herself with what some say was an asp or cobra. What made it a dramatic death was the fact that people believed she had an asp bite her breast (slow, painful death) for the pain of losing her lover. Plutarch and evidence indicates that she probably had a cobra bite her arm for a quick death since she was knowledgeable on what would've been best
Sara Spiller 1st Hour
Kylie Smith:
I like how your answers are detailed with information I didn't consider using for my answers.
Eskira Kahsay:
I also liked how your answers were short but completely answered the question. Good job!
Sara Spiller 1st
1] False:they believe her personality was charming.
2]it is true
3] False:Because After Cleo's husband died, she formed an alliance with Julius Ceasar.
4]it is true
5] False
6] False- They both ran from him && both killed themselves.
7] She commited suicide.People say she could have poisened herself, or died of a snake bite.
Genesis Quinones
Savannah i like your answers because they were detailed yet simple
Kylie-I like yours because your put alot of thought in to them and they acctually made me think about somethings myself =)
Sara---
I love your detailed answers you're a very intelligent young lady =D
Niara---
Nicely thought out. Great job!!!
~~~Kylie Rose~~~
1. False. Cleopatra was a plain woman, but her personality attracted men.
2. True. It was custom in Egypt for the king and queen to be brother and sister as well as husband and wife.
3. False. Ptolemy was killed in battle.
4. True. Cleopatra met Antony at Tarsus and they became lovers.
5. False. Octavian was not seduced by her and she committed suicide.
6. False. They fled from him and committed suicide.
7. She killed herself with a snake or poison.
Anne Emig 1st hour
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1. False--It was her irresistible charm and personality that captured suitors.
2. True--It was custom in ancient Egypt for brother in sister to marry if they were to become king and queen.
3. False--Caesar could've killed him in battle, but it doesn't say. All it says is that he was killed in battle.
4. True--It was her way od securing her power.
5. False--Mark Antony secured her reign for a short period of time until it all messed up. Antony died and then she commited suicide after Octavian didn't fall for her charm.
6. True--"The Roman senate stripped Antony of his political offices and declared war on Cleopatra". But, not successfully. They combined fleets & then tried to escape, but it was all over for them. (it's in the 2nd sentence of the back page.....)
7. They say it was a snake bite and researchers say it was so genius because it was evident she studied up on this and different poisons.
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Y.W.
1)false she had more charm than she did beauty
2)true.
3)false.
4)true.
5)false.
6)true.
7)she commited suicide. she might've been biten by a snake or poisoned herself.
Jazzy Benson 9-1
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
False, it was her personality that charmed her suitors, she was actually plain looking.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
True
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
False, She formed an alliance with Caesar after her husband died.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
True
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
False, she committed suicide instead of putting up with Octavian.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
False, they ran away and committed suicide.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
She either died from a viper or cobra or committed suicide with her lover.
~Mackenzie
Savannah,
I agree with most of your answers and thought that #5 was well written.
Maria,
I felt that your answers were thorough and complete.
Britany,
I agree with your answers but you forgot to explain the falses.
Ali,
I thought your answers were well thought out as well
~Mackenzie
1.False- Cleopatra wasn't that attractive but just ordinary. Just look at her big nose. Her charming personality is what won the suitors attention.
2.True many Egypt would marry family memebers
3.False- the king went down fighting in battle.
4.True- Anthony invited Cleopatra to come to tarsus and while their she seduced him and gave him gifts
5.False- she tried to seduce him and get him on her side but because of her old age she failed
6.False- They fled to together and commited suicide
7. Well she committed suicide and there are a couple different stories of how she died such as a snake bite or poison. But what made it romantic is that she went down with her man Anthony.
BIANCA DANIELS
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
Yes, this is true but it is also said that she was a very powerful leader. And irresistible charm along with a particular force of character that provided her with great strength.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
Yes, this is true it was tradition for them to be brother and sister as well as husband and wife. His name was Ptolemy XIII.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
This statement is false he was killed in battle. And then the throne was taken by her 13 year old brother Ptolemy XIV.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
This statement is half true at first she was set to conquer a conqueror but then soon after became a lover with Antony and then born his twins.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
False, she made the treaty with the Tarsus.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
True, they soon afterward they combined fleets of Antony and Cleopatra but were routed by Octavian’s sips in the Battle of Actium.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
Well, she committed suicide but it was dramatic because no one knows if it was for her love interest or because Octavian would have killed her.
-Allison Linner
Rachel, i liked your answers they were very infomative you did a good job.
Savannah, i loved your answers they were very detailed and complete keep up the good work!
- Allison Linner
Ben Nota 3rd
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
False, her beauty wasn’t great but her charm was.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
True, in Egypt it was that king and queen were supposed to be husband and wife also brother and sister.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
False, he died in battle against Caesar because Cleopatra wanted her thrown back.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
True, but she only really wanted Antony so she could conquer him.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
False, Octavian went to war against her and took her as a prisoner of war.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
True, But they soon failed and Antony committed suicide.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
She committed suicide, because she could of made an agreement with Octavian but she didn’t want to because she was about 40 and was getting tired.
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
False cleopatra was not beautiful, it was her cleverness and personality that got her what she wanted.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
True he was Ptolemy xiii
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
false he was killed in battle
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
true
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
False Octavian did not succumb to her charm, mabye because she was old and she was tired. She committed suicide
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
True, they fought together, but they lost and then they fled and both committed suicide.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
She committed suicide by poisening herself or she had a snake bite on her arm so she would die.
Eulices Monterroso
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
false, cleopatra was to have been rather plain. but she did have an irresistible charm along with her peculiar force of character.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
true, ptolemy XIII and Cleopatra were brother and sister but they soon become rivals rather than loyal helpmates
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
false, ptolemy was killed in battle not executed
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
true
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
false, cleopatra's charm did not work on octabian and cleopatra commited suicide.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
true, the combined fleets of anthony and cleopatra were routed by octavian's ships in the battle of actium
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
she killed herself out of humilliation because her lover was defeated and comitted suidice. it says she took a fang to her breast but it only says that to sond more poetic when really she was said to just be bitten in the arm
- haley jacoby
1. false, most historians thought she was kind of homely, but she had an firey personality.
2.true,very common back then.
3. false, formed alliance with Caesar.
4. True
5. false, he took over, and she didn't want to go home a war prize so she commited suicide.
6. false, both tried to run away then died.
7. either by suicide, poisen, or snake bite, it was dramatic because when she found out that Antony had killed himself, she felt it was honorable to die with some honor left, with the person you loved, and not stay behind to be humiliated.
-Sophia Ball 3rd hour
1)False; It has been stated by Historians that her personality and charm seem to have been more powerful than her looks.
2)True; Ptolemy XIII was her brother & husband. It was the custom in ancient Egypt.
3) False, he was killed in battle.
4)True; after Caesar's assassination she sailed to Mark Antony and they became lovers
5)False; She tried to make "peace" with him but he didn't fall for her charm
6)false; Anthony went to Alexandria to escape Octavian.
7)She killed herself instead of being carted back to Rome as a prisoner of war.
-Aaron Reames (1st hr)
Savannah- good job you really went into detail.
Rachel- you really thought yours through.
-Sophia Ball 3rd hour
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
False-Her looks weren't actually all that great. It was her personality that charmed her many suitors.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
True
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
False-Ptolemy XIII was killed in battle.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
True
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
False-Cleopatra was left to the mercy of Octavian and was sent back to Rome. Her seducing charm did not work because at that time she was to old and Octavian knew better.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
False-They ran from Octavian and both committed suicide.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
She killed herself either by ingesting poison, or a self-induced snake bite so she wouldn't have to be a prisoner of war. What made it so dramatic is she died shortly after her lover.
Sarah Carlson
3rd hour
Matt Hinkel
3rd Hour
1. False. It was her personality and intelligence that charmed people. She could speak six languages and was very well-versed in history and philosophy.
2. True. It was custom in those days for king and queen to be brother and sister, and she was the queen. It also stated in the article that Ptolemy XIII, her first husband, was in fact her brother.
3. False. It does say that Ptolemy XIII was killed in battle, but it never said that it was Caesar himself that did the killing.
4. True. It says that after Caesar’s death Antony asked her to come for a meeting, and Cleopatra seduced him there.
5. False. He did not give in to her charms, and Cleopatra committed suicide shortly thereafter.
6. True. She financed his military campaigns, and in exchange he made over great tracts of land to her and their children.
7. Rather than be taken as a prisoner of war, she committed suicide. She had backed the wrong man all along.
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
This is false. It was Cleopatra’s charm and power that got her so many suitors. She purposefully sought them out in order to use their power for her benefit.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
This is true. It was the Egyptian custom that there be joint rulers: brother and sister as well as husband and wife.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
This is false. Ptolemy XIII was killed in battle, and Caesar never married Cleopatra.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
This is true. Cleopatra needed another powerful Roman in order to achieve her ends, so she waited until the struggle for power after Julius Caesar’s death was apparently over and then pursued the man who came out on top.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
This is false. Cleopatra already had control of Egypt. She was officially married to her younger brother, Ptolemy XIV, but she kept power away from him.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
This is false. Octavian was the one who attacked. He led his army against the combined forces of Antony and Cleopatra, not the other way around.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
Cleopatra died of a poisonous snake bite, probably from a cobra. It was a dramatic death because Mark Antony had already committed suicide, and Octavian was on the way to take Cleopatra as a prisoner of war. It is possible that she used poison that she stored in a hollow comb instead of a self-induced snake bite, but the snake bite is the most commonly accepted and told theory.
--Marshall King
To Maria:
Good long answers. I can tell that you spent some time on the reading and question-answering. Good job.
--Marshall King
To Alison Robinson:
Your answers are straightforward and correct. Good details and explanations.
--Marshall King
1.Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.I think that this statement it false because Cleopatra was a plain person and not of great beauty. Also because her portraits show that she has a sensitive mouth, large eyes and a surprisingly huge mouth. The thing that charmed her many suitors is that she had an irresistible charm along with a peculiar force of character that pervaded her every word and action and many would fall under her spell.
2.Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
Yes I believe this statement is true because it was a custom in ancient Egypt that the king and queen were brother and sister as well as husband and wife.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
This statement is incorrect because Caesar didn’t execute Ptolemy the fourth. What happened was that Ptolemy was killed in battle.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
Yes when Caesar died they became lovers because Antony invited Cleopatra to come for a meeting at tarsus in Asia Minor . She didn’t go up to him so he came to her and she was able to seduce him.
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt .
This statement is false because she didn’t make any treaties with the nephew of Caesar.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian. Yes this is true but they didn’t win so they escaped to Alexandria , but it was all over because Antony killed himself.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
She died by committing suicide since Octavian did not succumb to her charms. So instead of being carted to Rome as a prisoner she committed suicide. It was a dramatis death because Cleopatra was a woman who had a power and wouldn’t give up so some people don’t really know what the reason she committed suicide was.
Yolanda Ramos
To Brittany Buurstra,
Your answers are correct but for some of the statements you didn't say why you thought the statement was true or false.
To Eskira Kahsay,
Nice answers and a agree with your reasons also. Y ou explained everything really good.
Yolanda Ramos
Donna Davidson
Discuss the following statements. Tell me if they are true or false and why. You will have until Thrusday, at 10pm, to make comments on two other entries.
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors. False She was plain she had big eyes and a big hooked nose.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother. True
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra. False the article doesn’t say how he died
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers. True
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt. False He wasn’t falling into her charm. He was going to bring her back as a slave so she killed herself.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian. False.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
She killed herself. By either a snake bite or poison all in the name of love ( lol )
Maria: you had a lot of detail in your answers, it shows that not only read the article but understood it aswell.
Duncan: i like how you kept your answers short sweet and to the point but at the same time answered the question completely.
- Donna
Savannah, i thought your answers were short and to the point. good job.
-Dani
Alison R., you went into a lot of detail. That's cool.
-Dani
Kylie,
Good job at answering the last question, but i have to say that in the article they stated that she was too clever to have a venom that caused long agonizing death come to her. It said that actually, she was smart about it and used a snake that would make it quick and painless.
Donna,
You also answereed the last question very good, but i cant exaclty agree it was all in the name of love, but it was more that she would never be brought in as a slave.
-Alejandro Potter
To Yolanda Ramos: your answer to # 1 used good evidence and reasoning from the text.
To Sara Spiller: i liked your # 7. It was well analyzed.
- Alison Robinson
1. False - She was not a great beauty; she seems, in fact, to have been rather plain. She had a big hooked nose. Her irresistible charm was what made her so alluring.
2. True
3. False - Ptolemy was killed in battle after Caesar reestablished he and his sister as rulers of Egypt.
4. True
5. False - She had no talks of peace with Octavian until after Antony's suicide, and even then he did not give her full power.
6. True
7. Cleopatra killed herself because she did not want to be a Roman prisoner of war, and wanted to die a free woman. She poisoned herself, either from snake venom or a poison she kept in a hollow comb.
-Deryn Duesbery
1st hour
Maria - I agree, there was a strong romantic aspect to her death.
Marshall - good detail, you put a lot of effort into it :)
Deryn Duesbery
1st hour
Sara Spiller: Your answers are very detailed and it looks like you took the time to answer the question completely...Great Job :)
Bianca Daniels: I like your answers, because they are short, but they are informative...Nice Work =)
Discuss the following statements. Tell me if they are true or false and why. You will have until Thursday, at 10pm, to make comments on two other entries.
1. Most historians agree that it was Cleopatra's great physical beauty that charmed her many suitors.
False, she was like a plain woman. She had charm and a delighted character.
2. Cleopatra's first husband was also her brother.
True, they were siblings.
3. Cleopatra's husband, Ptolemy XIII, was executed by Caesar shortly after Caesar married Cleopatra.
False Ptolemy died in battle.
4. Following Caesar's death, Cleopatra and Antony became lovers.
True, she went to Tarsus and came back with Antony as lovers. WOOHOO!
5. Being the skillful negotiator that she was, Cleopatra made a treaty with Octavian giving her complete power in Egypt.
False, she tried to seduce him but it didn’t work and she was sent to jail. She later killed herself.
6. After the Roman senate stripped Antony of his political power, he and Cleopatra combined forces to fight Octavian.
True, but Antony killed himself.
7. How did Cleopatra die and what made it a dramatic death?
She died from a snake bite. Her kids were left behind for the Romans to have. She chose a cobra that would kill her, but very slowly and painfully.
-Jordan Min Kee Scheller
Savannah:For 2 and 4 explain a little more. But good answers.
Maria: I thought that your answers were well planned.
Jordan Scheller
Alison,
I think your answers are well thought out.
Savannah,
Your answers were just right, and straight to the point
To Matt Hinkel- I never thought about your answer for number 7 as a possibility, but it makes sense now that i think about it
Savannah- All of your answers were really evidential... and proven to a t
Maria
Ilike your answers, i can see that you actually read the article and gave your answers some thought.
Ben
Good job answering your questions they look detailed and well organized. good job.
Eulices Monterroso
Ali- Your answers had alot of information from the reading and you answered the questions completely and gave good details.
Kylie- All of your answers had alot of good details and you used really good information. Nice job.
Sarah Carlson
3rd hour
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